2002 August - DecemberWednesday, August 7 Dear VTwin Mama, Tuesday, August 13 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Linda, Tuesday, August 13 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Judy, If you find yourself liking a bike that sits too high, often times there is a lowering kit to bring it down an inch or two -- or you can have the seat shaved (interior padding) or get a new seat (Corbin in a favorite) or add "height" to your legs by having a shoe repair service add a little heel to your riding boots. These have been the favorite suggestions over time. Have you taken a certified riding course yet? Please consider this seriously if you have not yet. Check my Links page for the Motorcycle Safety Foundation courses. If a bigger bike is kind of scary at this point -- consider getting a used bike in a smaller 250 or so to practice with for a while. Then spend your hard earned dollars when you've got some practice under your belt. Judy, you're not alone in these considerations -- it's one of the most frequently asked questions here at the VTwin Mama site. The only other suggestion I can offer is to check the links at the bottom of the home page and get yourself involved with a local women's riding group like Women on Wheels, Motor Maids or Women in the Wind. Their input will be quite valuable and you'll meet all sorts of women to support your new endeavor -- it's well worth the time! Good luck and let us know how it's going. Mama Wednesday, August 14 Dear VTwin Mama, I am sure it was your letters that help convince me that at 45 years of age, I could do it! Thanks for your website. Lauri Lippl in Vancouver, WA Dear Lauri, Wednesday, August 21 Dear VTwin Mama, So... at the age of 50, having never even sat on a motorcycle, I took the MSF course. It was the most stressful weekend of my life but I passed! I started out on a Yamaha V-Star 650 and a year (and 5,000 miles) later traded "Blackie" in on "Cream Puff", a V-Star 1100 Classic. I've ridden about 11,000 miles now and on Saturday (Aug. 17) my husband and I are heading out for a 3,500 mile trip from Redding, CA to South Dakota. (We waited until the Sturgis madness was over!) This will be my longest trip and I'm a little nervous because I've never ridden in the rain but I'm determined to act as if I know what I'm doing! I'll let you all know how it goes when we return. Anyway... you beginners just keep practicing. The nerves and the fear get a little less every time you get out there and it feels sooo good to look back and see how far you've come! Susan Dear Susan, Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Gayle, Wednesday, August 28 Dear VTwin Mama, My husband bought a Harley Custom Sportster with forward controls as his first bike, I felt it was too small for him, he is 6'3. After about 6 months, he was ready for a bigger bike. I tried selling the Sportster on the Internet without any luck. He purchased a brand new 2002 Road King Classic and said that he would give me the Harley. I was excited, yet heard people say it's top heavy, so I took the bike around the block and did some turns, shifted, stalled and the bike ok, perhaps felt lighter than the Honda in that the weight was more on top but I was uncomfortable with the handlebars and don't feel like my feet are flat on the floor (my husband says they are). It's different than the Honda. My feet reach the floor and my knees are bent not straight. I was getting ready to go around the block again and my husband was talking to me, he said "did you hear what I just said" I was concentrating on taking off and quickly turned my head around and said yes, I heard what you said, when I lost my balance and fell. After reading all the stories on this site, some women love Sportsters, other hate them. I am 5'4 - 140 lbs.; this bike is a 2001 HD Sportster with 2,000 miles on it. I was thinking of keeping it to ride next year when I have a full year riding on the Honda 600. I do not know what to do. My husband wants me to make up my mind. There's this brand new bike hardly ridden that I can have for nothing or sell it lose some money and then what? Angela Dear Angela, The only reason you're even looking at that Sportster is because your hubby was riding it -- so get rid of the Sporty. You husband had a good run on it -- now it's time to let it go! Put another way, lots of people start on one size bike and then upgrade -- much like your hubby is doing. But is that any reason for you to have to ride the "cast off" -- of course not! It doesn't fit, would require modifications to make it comfortable (which isn't cheap to do) and you've already got a bike you like! Get rid of the Sporty. Too many vertically challenged women have noted that the 883 Sporty is one of the worst balanced bikes for beginners and sits way too high. Get rid of it. Sell it. Minor loss in dollars -- no huge biggee. Adios. Consider putting an ad in the local paper or maybe like my area, you've got a free swap/trade/sell paper that lets you list for free with a picture! I'm trying to remember, but isn't there something called the Auto Trader that also lists motorcycles? And when you are finally ready to move to a more powerful bike (if that's YOUR decision), then you'll want to fully explore the possibilities of some great bikes that women really love -- so take your time and use your common sense -- to make sure that you are comfortable in your learning phase and for the rest of YOUR riding adventure! Your hubby probably meant well, but then he picked his two bike models, so why shouldn't YOU?!?!?!?! Mama Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Rainbow, Thursday, September 5 Dear VTwin Mama, My current ride is a 1998 800 Intruder and it is one great bike. Fast, as in quick, doesn't care if you are loaded or not the power seems the same. I would recommend changing the seat for a Travelcade one. The only thing I don't like about the bike is the small fuel tank. Most of my riding is longer distance so not happy with having to stop for gas so often. I start looking for a gas station at 100 miles but can go average of 120- 130 before really needing to stop. Best I ever did was 140 miles to reserve and 147 miles to the gas station. I have a National Windshield on the bike. It really is an awesome bike just wish it had a bigger gas tank. Cheryl (note from Mama: thanks for the input!) Friday, September 6 Dear VTwin Mama, I discovered the Sabre Owner's Group website for my Sabre and I imagine there is a website for V-Star riders. Most of these websites has a section dedicated to selling bikes and accessories. She may want to look for something like that. Rebecca (note from Mama: thanks for the thought!) Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Anna, Monday, September 9 Dear VTwin Mama, eBay.com, http://www.ebay.com, seems to be quite successful in helping folks sell their bikes. If you go this route, be sure to specify how far you are willing to deliver (if at all). Otherwise state that the buyer must arrange for pickup or shipping. Also most folks seem to ask for a specific percentage or dollar value within x days of auction end with the balance within x days. There are costs involved with eBay but they are reasonable. I know several folks who have bought both bikes & cars through them, all successful transactions. Cycle Trader Online, http://www.cycletrader.com, is another popular route as are the local cycle traders (in addition to local Penny Savers, Thrifty Nickles and other freebie "for sale" newspapers). Some folks mention their bikes for sale in the many bike forums at Delphi.com. Most motorcycle forums have "For Sale" folders - but be sure to read the forum rules first. FYI, there are several excellent "women rider" forums to be found there. To name just a few: - Women Riders International - Lady Biker - Harley-Davidson Women Riders Donna aka FrogBiker (note from Mama: thanks for the input!) One thing I swore to was that I would never buy something sight unseen. Second thing was that I would never buy something off the Internet. Well....guess what? I received a phone message about a 99 V-Star Classic last summer. Being the curious person I am, I looked it up. To make a long story short, I bid on the V-Star and won the bid. Then my husband and I took a trip to New Jersey to pick it up in person. It was awesome...just like the ad said it was. By the way, WE LIVE IN INDIANA! Hee Hee....since then, we have bought a number of things for our bikes (he rides a Valkyrie) off of ebay, and have been very satisfied with all our purchases.....one item came all the way from New Zealand! Right now, we are waiting for something to arrive from Texas. I guess buying over the Internet is a good thing after all. Betty aka Bootygrandma (note from Mama: sounds like you've learned from experience!) Just an input on selling sites - Cycle Trader Online is great. They sell locally in a magazine format and have online for nationwide searches. I use it to comparison shop, price shop, and see what bikes are on the market since dealers sell on there too. www.cycletrader.com I just checked motorcycle transport prices and they are almost as much as a car (around $600) on one site, so it may be prohibitive for interstate sales. My husband recently bought an old car on EBay, and is flying from Orlando FL to Springfield MO to pick it up and drive it home. It's our first really big purchase on EBay, so we'll have to see how it goes - buying a car without actually seeing it should be interesting. But I have had 300 successful transactions on EBay, and recommend it. If any of the VTwin Mama's have motorcycle parts, name brand boots or gear, EBay is the place to sell (or buy!) them. The old tank from my 2000 Suzuki Intruder 1400 is currently going for over $100! And the secret is that I only paid $80 for an unused 2000 tank on EBay which I paid $45 to have touched up to darn near perfect. A new tank from Suzuki is $500. April aka April (ok, that was just a Mama joke from the previous aka-s!) (note from Mama: so buyer beware and know the rules, but it's sounding like Internet sales can be a really positive thing!) While there are many places one could post, ebay is still the #1 site and very user friendly. I don't know what it costs the seller but as a buyer it's great. Once you set up a search you'll get an email if that item comes up so a buyer doesn't even have to waste time searching. I like the "buy it now" feature when offered 'cause if I want something I want it and would rather not feel like it was a big game sometimes. I bought my '85 Virago on ebay and stuck to driving distance 'cause I wanted to ride it first, natch, and the deal went off without a hitch. If you really want to sell it, it's gotta be the first place people will look and you can see what comparable bikes are selling for. You could literally have cash in hand before your ad even saw a newspaper. Just have good pics and all the pertinent info posted. Good Luck! Inga (note from Mama: thanks for more support on what looks like a valuable selling resource -- wow!) Wednesday, September 11 Dear VTwin Mama, Just found this site and love it! I took the MSF course in May on a couple 250 bikes, and have been riding a relatives Yamaha Virago 535 for the past couple of months. Im 52 and dont have a lot of upper body strength, but the Virago is a great fit! It sits low so my feet are flat on the ground, and its light enough that I can stand it up & control it well. My relative also has an 1100 Virago, but it is too heavy for me at my level right now. I think the 535 is a good size bike for a beginner and a good confidence-builder. Stace (note from Mama: thanks for your candid input on how you are gauging your own abilities at this point) Tuesday, September 17 Dear VTwin Mama, Let me know your thoughts and what other mama's recommend. I cannot believe how much the HD Heritage Softail is...$17,000.00, my car was cheaper!!!! I would like to stick to $12,000 - $14K Shadow Mama aka Angela Dear Shadow Mama, Now, I think you also wrote a letter under the name of Blue Mama (sorry if this isn't you!) lamenting the high cost of HDs but how easy it is to get emotionally hooked when someone starts talking about how great they are. Bikes are only great under two conditions: (1) it fits your body and (2) you can afford it. Otherwise you're going to hate the darn thing and that will ruin a good adventure and lifetime journey right from the get-go. So, be realistic about what you can afford and then take your time discovering what bike won't make you feel like you're hanging on for dear life. Well worth the time and effort to explore these issues. Happy riders understand this. Mama Dear VTwin Mama, So here's my question, some say start small (a la 'Rebel') and upgrade later (maybe a Shadow VLX). What say you? Is it really okay to start with a 600cc bike? Paige Dear Paige, About bike size and getting started. Here's the biggee I think -- are you intimidated by the idea of starting on the 600? If not, go for it. Some new women riders just immediately fear the bigger beasties, so for them, getting gobs of practice time in on a smaller cc bike makes sense. Me -- I started on a 750. But nice and slow. Nudged it down a road on early, early Sunday mornings to a big vacant K-Mart lot where I had lots of room to practice shifting gears, stopping, turning, etc. Also, I can tell you that my feet planted firmly on the ground and the controls were in easy reach of my arms/hands. The weight surprised me a bit, but I practiced leaning the bike when it was turned off so I could get a feel for it. Also made sure I knew where the kill switch was with my eyes closed as well as the gas cock lever. So, go for it, or not. You're neither right or wrong either way! Isn't that cool?!?!?! By the by, consider contacting one of the premier women riding organizations in your area to get that much needed support. Links are at the bottom of the home page. Mama Thursday, September 19 Dear VTwin Mama, One should never leave home without rain gear so where are you going to store the rain gear? A sissy bar to attach a "T-bag" or cheap back pack or duffle bag works great. A water bottle or an extra sweat shirt is nice to have along so another problem of where to put them. There are lots of brands and sizes of bags to use over the back fender. I prefer throw over bags that I only use when going over night and can be taken into the motel or tent, but lots of gals have bags that are permanently attached to the bike. Don't forget the bars that keep your new bags from getting into the tire. They also make a great place to attach bungees if you plan on carrying camping gear. A rack over the back fender also is nice for carrying things and not scratch the paint. Then of course there is the heated clothes, heated grips and the Throttle Lock for hand relief on those longer distance rides. You may think you are never going to take an extended or overnight trip but don't be surprised that after you get into riding a longer trip sounds better and better. It is cheaper in the long run to buy these add-ons when you buy the bike as a package deal. Buying them later the shop will charge full price and charge you to put them on. If you are going to spend the $$$ for your bike add a few more $$$ for some creature comforts and safety. Cheryl Dear Cheryl, Monday, September 30 As a motorcycle instructor for 22 years, I've taught over 6,000 riders and I personally would recommend a smaller bike initially, < 450 cc. As someone new to the sport, a novice, you will make mistakes. Smaller bikes with less weight and horsepower tend to be a lot more forgiving while making errors than the heavier and more powerful ones. In taking the course, I presume smaller bikes were used.... and no doubt having just passed, your learning curve is climbing quite rapidly. Well I would think the best thing to do would be to keep your learning curve accelerating upward rapidly and staying with a small bike during your motorcycle incubation period might not necessarily be a bad thing! Starting with a bike that's heavy and/or very powerful, (or one you can't sit on and touch the ground flat-footed) could possibly slow down your learning curve, flattening it out more so.
In our area, if you buy a smaller bike and really look after it
well, keeping it clean and well-maintained, after a season...... you can
probably sell it quickly ('cause there's not lots out there) for only a little
bit less than what you paid for it, making it very economical and real
positive benefit to your learning curve.
Too many buy their dream bike as their 1st, only to crash and
get hurt badly, or worse, killed - something that may have been avoided,
had they been riding a motorcycle that was more suited to their skill level, ability
and learning curve. If their dream bike were their 2nd or 3rd bike, it
wouldn't really kill them to wait that long, would it?
Smaller bikes are also easier to sell..... there's a
ready-made market for them - just drive them by a motorcycle school close to
the lunch break and talk to the students (who need to buy one) and see if
anyone's interested, maybe even post an ad there if they'll let you....
I think if you compared 2 riders, let' say 'A' and 'B' :
in the beginnning
'A' + 'B' graduate MSF course with identical results and skills
history over time
'A' + 'B' have equal riding time (5 years) and
distance.........
'A' has only ridden the larger, more powerful bike all
that time
'B' has had.... say 3 different bikes during that
same time period, say a small 250 for 1 year, a mid-size 500-750 for
years 2-3 and a large 800-1800 for years 4-5
'A' + 'B' have ridden the same motorcycle for the last 2
years.
With this information at hand, I would give the season another
chance? Take care and RIDE SAFE!!!
No Name (note from Mama: thanks for sharing your wonderful insights from the
perspective of one who has seen so much in her riding lifetime. That means a
lot to the readers and me, who is always learning.)
Monday, September 30 Dear VTwin Mama, By the time I got the wind in my face I knew he was in trouble. I was in love. He rides a 1500 Honda Gold Wing and that is too much bike for me. Now I have my endorsement but nothing to ride. On 7/19/02 when husband returned home from work I put my hands out for his keys and said I want to ride. He then informed me we would go shopping on his days off for my own bike. Jumping for joy I started looking in the paper. Of course I knew what I wanted, I had been looking at bikes for a year and had already made my mind up that if I passed the class I wanted to get a Honda Shadow.. and yes I did go down a lot I thought I could handle a 1100 Shadow but that was cut short after I knew what I wanted. First of all you need to touch the ground and second you have to be able to pick it up off the kick stand. OK don't laugh I know I'm not the only one who has ever thought they were all that and a bag of skittles. I then settled for a 600 VLX Shadow. Some times I can use my head when it really counts. Picking a motorcycle does count. Well needless to say I picked my motorcycle up from the dealership OK! My husband pickup "my" motorcycle from the dealership on 7/27/02 the dealership is about 100 miles from where we live. My husband was teaching that weekend up at the college there so he rode my bike to the site where he would be teaching other students how to ride. I got to follow him and my bike about 2 mile from the dealership to the site. Then I got to watch all the new students learn to ride. I started to get hungry so I went out for a bite, there was something wrong with the hunger pains that I was feeling. Low and behold I found my self at the dealership. As I scarfed down the wonderful zip off bags for my bike I thought I would have a leather vest for desert. Yum I felt so much better and now to go back to the school to see if hubby was done teaching. Well of course he wouldn't be done, I wasn't there yet. After an hour he finished up from his class. Yeppie! now it's my turn. Believe it or not my husband started me off right from the start of a class I had to "fine C" then he pushed me across the parking lot wow that was a rush, then I got to start my motorcycle feeling the rumble was great, then I got to ride. I can't tell you how lucky it was for me. I think when you can take the class, then buy your motorcycle and learn all over again but this time on your own motorcycle. I wish all first timers had that opportunity. Any ways it is now 9/18/02 I have been riding my own motorcycle now for 54 days and counting. when I started my bike had a 1/10 of a mile on it, It now has 2162 miles on it. I ride to work. OK, please don't laugh I only work 2 blocks from home, my bike doesn't even get warm by the time I turn it off at work. I do ride after I get off work. I look for reason to ride. My husband commute to work he rides about 47 miles one way. I have been known to show up at his work just so we could ride home together. And yes, I do ride alone if I have too. I think I got the bug and well VTwin Mama I was wondering if there is a cure for it. Not that I would take it at this time. I'm having to much fun. Susanne (The "Q") Dear Susanne, Tuesday, October 1 Dear VTwin Mama, Everyone has a different level of confidence starting out, so go with what you feel is right. Don't get something you'll feel intimidated by. My first bike, a Honda Rebel 250, was the right size to start on. Now I'm ready for my next bike, which I think will probably be a Honda Shadow A.C.E. 750. My husband has one and I've ridden it a little. It is still a little intimidating, but I feel I'm ready. Also, I know the feeling of wanting someone to appreciate that you passed the MSF course. I had never had experience with a manual transmission, so that alone took some practice before I understand how to shift. Linda (note from Mama: yahoo to you for your accomplishments as a rider and for taking the time to assure an even newer rider that not only are they are on the right track, but that it's really, really ok to ask questions! That's our favorite pastime here at VTwin Mama -- questions, responses and insights!) Dear VTwin Mama, Dear VTwin Mama, Dear LS Rider, Dear VTwin Mama, I looked at some other Shadows today thinking of upgrading my 600. I liked the Honda Shadow 750ACE Deluxe, and I also like the Shadow Sabre. Do you have any recommendations? I did get your e-mail (about getting rid of the Sportster that her husband was riding but has a bigger one and it doesn't really suit her) -- we are going to sell the Sportster, it seems the market is saturated with HD Sports. My husband does not want to take loss on it and is upset. He paid 11,000 for the 2001 (extra, forward control, back rest and real comfy seat). Its a custom Sport -- what do you think we should sell it for? What bikes do Mamas like? I'm looking for a bike that's can do highways and get good gas mileage. The 750 is appealing but I was looking at the 1100 for better gas mileage. The 600 gets just about 100 miles to a tank. I look forward to hearing from you. Angela Dear Angela, Keep in mind that on many model bikes, the gas tank can be changed out for something larger so that you have a greater range of riding before you need to gas up. VTwin Mama favor the Honda Shadow series, Yamaha VStars, Suzuki Intruders, Buell Blasts and HD Fatboys. Size is a matter of your personal size and what fits you. I can't comment on the differences between the Shadow 750ACE Deluxe and the Sabre, but if any sisters have an opinion, I hope that they share it! Mama Wednesday, October 2 For Pamela who mourns the fact that the Virago is no longer manufactured: I also wanted a Virago for the light weight and easier handling, but I wanted a newer bike and was having trouble finding just the Virago I wanted. I would suggest that Pam try the Suzuki Intruder 800 or 1400. Hammerlady rides a 1400, as I do. They are lighter weight, chopper style, and shaft drive - just like the Virago. And I really, really like mine (okay, I love it.) April For AJ in England who wants to know if she should consider one: AJ, the problem with the Viragos right now is that they are no longer being made so I wouldn't recommend one. Parts and customizing will be harder and harder to find. I would look into a bike that is still being made. Viragos were great bikes but the Yamaha V-Stars took their place. Try looking at the 650 V-Star but if you can afford it go right to the 1100 -- almost same weight with more power. Cheryl Thursday, October 3 In regards to changing the bars before you purchase the bike....... they will do anything for money as long as it is within the legal scope of things. I would say it would be less $$ if you can do it yourself....and more fun. Sharon (note from Mama: yes, it CAN be fun, but to each her own) You could have your bars switched out either before or after your purchase. Choosing the right bars is going to be easier after you have ridden it a few times. I am 5'3" and ride a FB. The one thing I felt I had to do first was go to a more narrow seat. The stock bars were not all that bad, although I did change them to Chubby 508's. Fanci4Nanci (note from Mama: hmmmm, you're right about trying it out, but sometimes the shortcoming is THAT obvious and should be addressed immediately.) Harley Davidson dealers are almost without fail the easiest to deal with on getting a new bike "perfect for you" before you ride off. The amount of accessories and equipment available to them is much larger, even on brand new models, than any of the metrics. That is part of what you pay for when you shell out for a Harley. Different bars, installing risers, raising and lowering the seat height, adjusting the controls to fit, these are all things you should do before you take delivery, regardless of your bike's make and model. Advise your reader to tell the salesman her/his concerns, and if the salesperson doesn't have satisfactory answers, to go to the store manager. I am sure that with a brand new Fatboy sale and over $20K on the line, your reader will get the management's attention. Dave "G-Man" Hembroff, Editor, SouthWestRider.com (note from Mama: right, use your leverage as the buyer!) Yes, you can make these types of changes before delivery of your bike. In fact, a good salesman SHOULD ensure that he has covered any changes that are needed for a safe ride as well as other areas. When I bought my new Low Rider, the dealer had a person dedicated to add-on parts and accessories. He made sure that I could easily flat-foot my new bike. He went through the suggested changes that would enhance my safety (I added an engine guard, halogen fog lights that mount to the guard, a switch to change my rear directionals into 3-way brake, turn, stop lights). Next was comfort & convenience - here I opted to add a removable sissy bar & luggage rack (since I solo ride and like the sleek look, I usually ride without these but wanted them for trips). Then we talked about performance. The first thing I added was an oil cooler, something badly needed here in the South where temps are high and we ride year round. I also added the carb kit and Screamin' Eagle pipes. I knew these were something that I would eventually add and found out that parts put on BEFORE delivery are warranteed by H-D for one year parts & labor. Parts put on after delivery are only warranteed for 90 days by H-D. The other added bonus is that you are financing the add-ons that you know you would be getting very soon, especially the pricier ones. I opted to not add any chrome, one because the bike already had a lot and 2, because that was something that could be added a little at a time without major cost (in most cases). So, the short answer is YES - you can and SHOULD make changes before delivery of your new Harley-Davidson (I can't answer for any other brands). Donna/Brogbiker (note from Mama: good solid advice here) Friday, October 4 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear VTwin Mama, For as much as I have ridden my Sporty (which isn't a lot), I really enjoy it. It has been lowered, so I am able to touch flat foot without a problem. The bike seems a little heavy, but I assume I will get use to it once I get riding more regularly in the Spring/Summer (it seems forever away). My best advice for Angela is to check out www.harleydavidson.com and click on Dealers, Used Motorcycles and see what the dealers are selling a comparable 2001 Sporty 1200 Custom for in her area. That should give you a pretty good idea of what you may get out of your bike. I am with V-Twin Mama though and try to wait until Spring, everyone now will be looking for a deal and a cheap bike, especially with Christmas coming up. It wouldn't hurt to place an ad in a local paper and see what kind of response you get...If it doesn't sell for what you want, then wait until Spring and try again. Good Luck and Happy Selling, Sue (note from Mama: thanks for sharing your insights and suggestions!) Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Kathy, Well, alright, I do have a few thoughts that might help. First, you'll never be comfortable with any bike weight if you cannot plant your two feet (three or more if you are an alien) firmly on the ground. No good balance of a bike was ever achieved on tippy toes. Next, you are right, if the forward controls are not easily managed, you are again struggling against the bike and will never have control. Now, go to local bike shops, sit on the bikes and bring the bike off its kickstand to center underneath you. Did you struggle to get it off the kickstand on your own? Lean the bike a little left and right and feel the weight. Does it feel overwhelming? Give this a shot. Also, if you belong to a club of some sort, ask to sit on members bikes (no power on) and feel the differences. This is fairly low risk and people will most likely accommodate your request. Or, wait till a bike show comes to your area this winter and do the same thing! Or, if you are in fact an alien, well, then you've got other options, don't you!?!?!?! Mama Monday, October 7 For LS Rider who is researching bikes and what to ask for in terms of change-outs: Yes the shop you buy your new Fatboy from should have an aftermarket set of pull back risers available for purchase and installation on your new bike before it leaves the shop. I bought a new 2000 FatBoy and before it left the shop I had a detachable windshield, engine guard and easy boy lite clutch installed right there before delivery. I also had pull back risers later put on the handle bars which really made the bike more comfortable. If you need any more advice on a Fat Boy feel free to contact me. Good Luck! Julie in Louisiana (note from Mama: Julie sounds like a good source of overall info and can be reached via email at jacsubzero@aol.com) I have bought 3 brand new bikes since 2000, 2 Yamaha VStar Classics and 1 Harley Sportster. Believe me, the salespeople are only too happy to show you the accessory catalogue when you purchase the bike. For instance, my 2002 Sporty was ordered factory standard, but when she was delivered, her seat, and pipes that I had ordered the day I signed the dotted line, were on her upon delivery. The dealerships are only too happy to accommodate your every whim, so knock yourself out! Ride Safe! Chrisie Shaw in Brooklyn, NY (note from Mama: so it simply doesn't hurt to ask and discover the possibilities) Tuesday, October 8 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Lici, Dear VTwin Mama, I had one near-drop when I stalled on an incline, but I was able to sit it down gently. I thought I would have a difficult time picking it up but I didn't. I brushed my pride off, caught my breath, and jumped back on. (The bike was fine.) Overall, I'm glad I decided on the Shadow as opposed to the Rebel. I can feel my confidence growing day by day and I think I'll be content with it for quite some time. My other dilemma now is how to get it to the DMV for inspection. I'm not quite ready for the ride to the inspection station. I'll figure out something! All for now!! Paige Dear Paige, Thursday, October 10 For Paige and her 2002 600 Purple Honda Shadow: Paige, I think you will be very happy with your purchase, I know I have. I got my 2002 purple Honda Shadow July 27, 2002 I have now put on over 3100 miles on it. I never had so much fun. I just got my endorsement in July as well. I just can't keep my butt off of it. I went on a 200 mile run with the CMA and rode with lots of different bikes. I was able to keep up just fine with all of them. The bike handled so good as well. I have come close a couple of time in dropping my bike but praise God I have been able to hang on to her. I admire you for getting back on and riding away, that's the way its done. Good luck and hope to see you some time in the wind. GOD BLESS YOU TODAY AND ALWAYS. Susanne (the Q) (note from Mama: exactly!) Dear VTwin Mama, Monday, October 14 For Rhonda in Pittsburgh who is interested in the Honda Magna model: I have heard really good things about the Magna. The few people that I know that ride them can't say enough good things about them, and want everyone to get one. My only suggestion would be to give it a test ride and see how it goes. If everything checks out ok, GO FOR IT! Terri in Baltimore My husband rides an 85 V65 and weve done a lot of research on these bikes. The information weve found is that it has had some habitual problems in the earlier years (including the 83) that I would check out before purchasing. The engine had an oiling problem due to the restricted size of the oiling bolt hole from the oil reservoir to the top of the engine. This problem was detected early on and most owners replaced the bolt with one that could accommodate the needed amount resolving the problem. The next problem that seems to reappear is the loss of second gear. The tines would round off and slip out of gear. You can still ride it that way but you have to skip through 2nd. The third problem is the flattening of the lobes on the cams. Which cant be ridden through but will need to be replaced. This is a powerful bike/engine, the second fastest (the Yamaha V-Max being first) production bike ever built. The good news is that it is somewhat of a cult bike and parts both used and new are easy to come by, however not always inexpensive. The Magna also seems to retain or even increase its value over time. Even with its known problems if I came across one in good condition I would snatch it up at any price tag under $2K. Any more than that I would start looking at what had been done to correct the known problems and overall maintenance of the bike since new. There is also a web site that has a lot of excellent information on both the Magna and the Sabre (same VF1100c engine) at http://disc.server.com/Indices/105301.html Good luck with your hunt. P.S. I've ridden ours... if you have a thing for speed this IS the bike! HammerLady at www.shinnysideup.com Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Pearl, Wednesday, October 16 For Kathy who is on a Rebel and wants to move up to a bigger bike, but how to judge what is too big: I started riding a Rebel in May of this year. I had the same problem with the shifting. They do not have the wide gear ratio of bigger bikes. I'm ready to move up to a bigger bike and decided to do a test ride. I was very nervous, I decided on a Honda Shadow ACE 750, which is a lot bigger than the Rebel. I did a test ride and surprisingly was able to handle the bike. I did all the things beforehand. My feet planted firmly on the ground, I could reach the handlebars well, I had the dealer hold the bike so I could see if I could reach the foot controls. I leaned it left and right and pushed it forward and back. I did not feel intimated at all. So I went ahead and gave it a go and have decided to buy it. I can't wait! J (note from Mama: thanks for the encouragement for Kathy and sharing your own experience) Monday, October 21 For Pearl who was wondering if a Shadow VLX 600 can keep up with the "big bikes": Pearl, like starts, stops and corners -- speed needs to be practiced by the new rider. Speed on a bike is intimidating; the sound of the engine, the road flying by, and the noise of the wind in your ears all make speed scary. Your bike will be find traveling all day at 60mph and higher, it is you who needs to practice speed like you practice all the other points of riding. Find a two to three mile straight stretch of road with no cars and practice riding your bike at what ever speed it just over your comfort zone. Try that speed a couple of times. Then go five miles faster and keep increasing your speed until you are comfortable riding at 65, 70 or higher. Then get on a major road with a speed limit of 55 or 60 and ride it for while. Now try the freeway at 70. Try passing a truck or car at 80 or 85. Just to get yourself used to all the "stuff" associated with speed. Sometimes being comfortable with this higher miles per hour can get you out of a potential problem out on the road. I am not suggesting that you speed as you ride all the time, but you should be comfortable with riding at the posted speed limits on major roads and that takes practice. Be safe. Cheryl (note from Mama: great advice to ease into the speed thing.) Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Kathy, Tuesday, October 22 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Barb, Friday, October 25 Dear VTwin Mama, Anyhow, I did enjoy riding it and did not feel like I was being blown around like on the 600. I am going to stay on the 600 thru to spring. I'm riding now on weekends whenever I can, it's getting chilly up here in the Northeast (Jersey). The rubber side is down. Angela C. Kosar (note from Mama: you go girl! That cork thing sounds like a fishy design. Hmmmm.) Wednesday, October 30 For Kathy who is considering a Vulcan 500: For Kathy, moving from the 250 Rebel to the 500 Vulcan - I believe there was a lot of input on this site about the Kaw 500 Vulcan - I know I made one. It probably doesn't take off as fast as the 250 Rebel, but it is fast off the line and slows down quick too. Any speed over 60mph was impossible for me (150 lbs.) April (note from Mama: soon, very soon, I plan to reorganize the Type of Bike archive section because it is most easily the biggest file and takes too long to scroll through to find opinions on each type of bike right now.) For Kathy who is trying to move up from her Rebel 250: Hey there mama, been awhile for me to write...we must all get that bike bug love riding. I just cannot get enough riding in and I am lucky to live in southern CA. I was wondering if Kathy checked out the 800 Suzuki Intruder...as I said before, I'm 5'3", 134 lbs. -- had the front and back lowered and had the seat shaved down so it fits perfect. I have to friend with a Dyna Wideglide and Sportster 1200..and I can keep up with all. I've been across the states on it -- its a great bike.....great job mama in all you do for all us woman riders. Thanks. Georgia in Lakewood, CA (note from Mama: good to hear from you and thanks for sharing your thoughts.) Tuesday, November 5 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Kathy, Wednesday, November 6 Dear VTwin Mama, My point is that there is an alternative to the Harleys......consider an Indian. The Scout is comparable to the Sportster, and the Spirit is comparable to the Fat Boy. The Indians have a lower center of gravity and are more stable. So if you're worried about keeping up with the guys, or want something a little more classy, check out the Indians after you've checked out the others. They're back, and back with a lot of class. Today we went on probably the last ride of the season for up here, a Toy Run for Brightside, a center for children....it snow showered last night, it was about 34 when we left, but with about 3500 bikes doing the 12-mile run, it got pretty warm in the sunshine. We had a great time; this was my first large run (I hate to ride in things like that alone, and am just beginning to hook up with a few other female riders in the area); I had done a run with about 100 bikes a couple months ago, and was in the front of the pack cause they knew I'd never participated in a run. This time it was a free-for-all and we ended up in the middle, but still was a pretty good time. I just recently signed up for your newsletter and find it quite informative. And archiving the "bike to ride" section by manufacturer would be a good alternative. Keep up the good work....will check in with you again!! Claire in Western Mass. Dear Claire, Thursday, November 7 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Karen, Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Janet, When I typed in the subject Rebel versus Virago 250s in the Google.com search engine, a few VTwin Mama pages popped up, so somewhere buried in the Type of Bike to Ride archive are opinions on these bikes. I'm hard at work streamlining this awkward page (just a running list of 22 months of input) into segments by manufacturer, but it's proving to be difficult to slice it up. I'll keep trying! Mama Thursday, November 14 For Janet G. who is considering either a Virago 225 or a Rebel 250: I don't know anything about a Virago 250cc, but I started out on a Rebel 250cc and loved it. I would recommend maybe getting a used one and keeping it for about a year and then step up. Also take a MSF course. I don't know her name, but I do know that a lady rode her Rebel from California to the Women and Motorcycling conference in Buckhannon, WV this past summer. That shows how good the Rebel is. Bobbye (note from Mama: wow, that's a long trip on a 250cc bike, but then I saw the movie on the guy who rode a riding mower across several states to see his ailing brother. Chutzpah, either way!) Either of these motorcycles would be a fine starter. You could go a step bigger I think and look at a Honda Shadow 600 VLX. It's a very light motorcycle and it's wonderful to handle on the road. I know where there's a used one for sale for around $4000 if you are interested. Also, if you know a person who's good with a wrench, I have a Kawasaki KZ400 for sale for $250. It runs well, but cosmetically it needs some tender lovin' care. Foxee (note from Mama: Foxee can be reached at foxdragon@cuttingedge.net if you're interested Janet.) My first bike was (and still is) a 1982 Honda Nighthawk 450. It's light, easy to handle and looks bigger than it is. I also have a 1977 Kawasaki 750. It looks and handles pretty much the same, but much faster. Don't get me wrong, the Honda will keep up with the big boys, do wheelies and lay tread, but the Kaw was built for racing. (Consequently, I don't ride it very much, I'm a little leery of the speed and quicker response.) Also, one thing to keep in mind, how much shop time do you want? Check with repair shops and find out which has the most problems. My Honda has not been in the shop, and I have managed to ride when hubby can't because his is in the shop. Anyway, my suggestion is, do a little more research and sit on both, maybe test ride one or both of them, if they'll let you and go with the one you like the best. Traci S. in Kansas City, MO (note from Mama: good thoughts on asking mechanics what they think. So Janet, find an independent mechanic locally and query. I remember being interested in a Jeep Wrangler cage once until I talked to a tow truck friend who said he towed more of those than was good. Just food for thought.) Friday, November 15 More for Janet G. who is considering either a Virago 225 or a Rebel 250: I rode a Rebel 250 all summer. I loved it. It was very easy to handle, light weight and my feet touched the ground with plenty of room. I am sorry I can't compare the two bikes but I highly recommend the Rebel. Good luck! Lou Ann (note from Mama: and every little bit helps!) Monday, November 18 More for Janet who is pondering her first bike choice: This struck me as a pretty easy question really. If you're sure you want a 250, there's also the Suzuki Savage that is used in the (www.manys.org) classes here in NY. I think you should just look around and get whatever one you find for the best price as I think you'll outgrow it anyway so don't dump a lot of cheese on it. The Rebel was also made briefly as a 450 as well and I've noticed that they seem to have held their value and often resell for the $2k they originally sold for nearly 20 years later. If you can find one you'll get your money back if you don't learn how to drop it. Like Petra, I learned on a 750 (Maxim) and like keeping up with the big dogs on the highway. I'm currently the proud Mama of an '85 Virago 700 and it will take one hell of a demo ride to pry me off of it. Don't underestimate yourself, if you find a mid-size bike you like, give it a whirl. Just because it can do 90 mph, doesn't mean you have to. A lot of women worry about the weight but you're supposed to be riding it, not carrying it around. Just keep the center of gravity low and the bike will do the rest. At 5'5" the Virago is my perfect bike. You might also consider a Shadow or Intruder. If it's comfortable and your feet are on the ground you'll have no trouble. Just don't ride faster than your angel can fly! Blue skies and Laughter. P.S. If you can get to Gettysburg PA in June, be sure to be at the Mid-Atlantic Women's Motorcycle Rally (www.mawmr.com). All the big manufacturers will be there with demo rides available at this special event just for women. (read as "no competing with all those guys for a spot") See ya there! Inga Bubar (note from Mama: thanks for your insights -- it is soooo true that most readers have indicated that while they might start small, invariably they move up to a bigger bike within a year!) Tuesday, November 19 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Janet, Tuesday, November 19 For Kathy who in contemplating moving up from a Rebel: Glad to hear of another woman starting to ride. I started on a Virago 250 about a year ago. I loved it. I am vertically challenged and it was perfect for me. I recently went up to the V Star 650 Custom, (everyone said I would before the year was up, and they were right) The only problem I ever had was going up inclines, the Virago didn't seem to like the hills very much, had it full throttle and still lacking behind our group. Other than that it was great. Don't know it the hill climbing would be a problem for your part of the country. What ever you decide, do what right for you, not anyone else. Ride Safe.. Glenda B. (note from Mama: thanks for the encouraging note to Kathy!) Dear VTwin Mama, I'm looking to buy my first bike. I have my license and took the MSF course again, because it's been 20 years or so since I did it last time. BOY It's changed! I've sat on a lot of bikes in the showrooms, and I just really love the feel of the Honda Shadow ACE Deluxe 750. I feel like the weight is more under my legs than in front or back of me - lots more controllable and easier to ride. It just feels "right" to me. I do have two concerns though. I've noticed some people in reviewing that bike have said the 32 degree rake on the front fork make for unstable low speed turns. The nearest competitor is the Suzuki Marauder 800. It's got a 36 degree rake, so that would be even worse, right? Has anyone experienced this and has it been something "big" to overcome? My second concern is that this IS my beginner bike. I think that 750 is at the top end of size for me. If the Shadow didn't feel so good to me, I would really be more comfy with a 500 or 650, I think. Dear Hubby is pushing me into the 800 though, saying I need one I won't grow out of for a few years. The 800 is 50cc bigger and the bike is 50 lbs lighter too. Wouldn't this tend to make it REALLY peppy and easy to push around on the highway? I'm thinking maybe too much for me to handle. I would love to hear anyone's opinions on these two concerns. EEK. I didn't mean for this to be so long either! Thanks for listening. BJ in TX Dear BJ, Your dear husband is speaking from experience, and knows that many riders often times start with a smaller bike and then quickly realize that they want something bigger, and question whether they couldn't have started with the bigger one to begin with! A very natural reaction -- but one born from a positive first bike experience. And that's the key -- to get a bike that will allow you to enjoy your reentry into bike riding. Starting with something too big or that doesn't feel right immediately starts you not trusting your bike or yourself. A BIG no-no. Trust your instincts here. As for the front end rake of a bike, I agree that too big of a rake does alter turning at slow speeds, but is a learned technique no matter what the bike or rake angle. Slow turns is always one of the more difficult things to master, and requires time on the bike -- no exceptions! My first and second bikes where 750s -- and I rode these from 1979 to 1994 -- and did two major cross country rides. The only reason I ever changed to my current bike is that I didn't like my leg room (even with highway pegs mounted forward). If your finances allow, why not consider a used bike for cheap in the size range you are considering to determine your comfort level, which can then be sold when you are in better position to evaluate the "perfect" new bike for yourself. Last, each person "sits and feels" different on a bike, so while your husband is a peach for supporting your choice to ride, he can't gauge a bike for you. 50cc plus or minus is not a huge consideration in my estimation. Again, your instincts have value. Stick with them! And you go girl! Mama Thursday, November 21 For BJ who has fallen for the Honda Shadow ACE Deluxe 750 but wonders if its right for her: BJ, I ride a Honda ACE Deluxe 750. It is the bike I chose after taking the MSF class and getting my license. I rode many many years ago, but back then the biggest bike I ever had was a Honda 360. All of that being said, I love my 750. It handles nicely at slow speeds and I feel fairly stable on the interstate amongst traffic. I'm 5'9" and the bike fits me perfectly. I test rode the Vulcan 800 (several models), a used Virago 750 and a Yamaha VStar 650. The Honda was by far my favorite. I've had her for two years now and if I wasn't thinking about traveling a lot in my retirement, this would be the bike for the rest of my life. But thoughts of coast to coast traveling have me dreaming of a VTX 1800. My point is, you can't really be positive that you are buying enough bike when you start out. The important thing is to buy a bike that you feel stable enough on to get out and ride. The bike also has to 'speak' to you. In other words, you've got to fall in love with it a little bit. It is a fine line you walk in trying to get a bike that is small enough for you to feel confident on, and getting a bike big enough that you won't outgrow it. Shadowlady (note from Mama: I can identify with the "falling in love a little" part -- there's just something about certain bikes -- the way you feel when you sit on them and ride them and care for them -- it DOES matter! It is a fine line and one that gets easier with experience.) Wednesday, November 27 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear LC, Monday, December 2 More for BJ who has fallen for the Honda Shadow ACE Deluxe 750 but wonders if it's right for her: I own a Honda 1100 Shadow ACE Tourer. I am about 5''7". It is a great bike but I have never ridden a bike smoother, easier to handle, or more comfortable then the Honda Goldwing. Everybody that I have referred to it has brought one home. I am still in the market for one as soon as the finances get right. As I told my mother, for my 50th birthday I will be riding my Goldwing across country. Keep on riding and don't rule a bike out until you've test driven them all. No Name (note from Mama: so little time, so many bikes!) Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Running, Wednesday, December 4 For Running who wants a cool bike for an 8-year-old by Xmas time: Bite the bullet and buy your child a Honda or Yamaha 80cc bike. Better yet, find a used one as he/she will out grow this bike quickly but is a very good starter bike. Even a 80's 80cc bike would be great. Cheryl (note from Mama: there's lots of used bike sites that Running could check into simply by typing those words into any search engine -- or even call a local dealer to see what they might have available. Thanks for the suggestion.) Dear VTwin Mama, I would really appreciate your feedback on trying to decide if I should invest into the ACE 750. Awaiting yours, best regards Alex V. Dear Alex, One note that I could add: how did your wife feel when you saw each bike? It's my experience that often times the passenger gets the "short end" of the seat and her riding comfort is easily compromised, which make longer rides less enjoyable for her. VTwin Mama sisters -- any sage advice on this subject? Mama Wednesday, December 11 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Kip, As we preach time and time again on this site, the type of bike you choose is based on your comfort level. In the MSF course, you'll most likely learn on a 250cc bike. This is a good start. Guiding points for choosing a bike include the following: sit on the bike and make sure your feet are flat on the ground so that you have maximum control of the bike at all times. Now, stretch your arms out and see if the bike handlebars and controls are at a comfortable distance for you. Same for your legs. Next, how did you do in the course and how is your physical strength -- you don't want a bike too powerful right off the bat if this is a concern. So, what does your budget look like -- consider checking ads in the local paper or Cycle Trader or something similar for a used bike -- which by the way is a great way to get your first bike cheap and figure out what you really want! Get some miles logged in! Also, check for motorcycle shows in your area -- many of these shows are held in the winter -- the Motorcycle Events site is a good place to look (Events Calendar -- check for Cycle World shows in particular). That way you can sit on tons of bikes and get a feel for the whole thing. So wad da ya think? Enough information already? Hopefully enough to get you started. Mama Thursday, December 12 For Alex who is wondering about the ACE 750 or the VTX 1300 Retro for he and his wife: A friend of mine has an ACE 750 and he and his wife ride 2-up all the time without a problem. He loves the bike and has never complained about it lacking power for the both of them. His wife did complain that the seat and backrest were uncomfortable and he replaced the passenger pillion with one from a Valkyrie and the backrest with a wider one from Mustang. Hope this helps. Robyn C. (note from Mama: as always, every little bit of information DOES help!) Thursday, December 19 Dear VTwin Mama, Dear Kathy, Tuesday, December 24 Dear VTwin Mama, It is excellent that more women are getting into riding. The encouragement, experience and wisdom shared on the VTwin Mama site is outstanding. This is a link to the ARC, Alpha Riders Club forum which I'm the owner/moderator and Co-Founder of the ARC. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AlphaRidersClub I will be adding a link to the 'Links" section for VTwin Mama. Keep up the great work! Gary DeLong Dear Gary, |
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