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Articles on lowering a bike:
Lower Your VStar 650 for Free with the "Julio Slam"!
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Lower Your Sportster: An Interesting Alternative
2001
Thursday,
December 20
Dear VTwin Mama,
Do you know if a a seat on a Yamaha Seca 1981 can somehow be
lowered cheaply? Thanks. Cherie
Dear Cherie,
Let the air out of your tires? No, no, that's probably not the
right solution. Hack out part of the frame? No, no, somehow that doesn't
sound correct either! Ok, I'm stumped -- readers, any clues for Cherie?
Mama
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Friday,
December 28
Dear VTwin Mama,
For Cherie: I don't know about Yamaha, much
less that early of a bike, but Harleys' have lowering kits if the bike is
sitting too high. Maybe you could ask your Yamaha dealer about a lowering
kit for that particular bike. Pat
Dear Pat,
That does seem to be an obvious solution, however, I believe the
operative word in Cherie's plea was "cheap" and that may be the
problem. My experience with dealers is that I usually like the work if and
when I can afford it!
Mama
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Monday,
December 31
Dear VTwin Mama,
For Cherie:
You don't lower the seat . . . you lower the bike . . . or buy a
Harley lol. HDFlyer
Dear HDFlyer,
See what happens when you are tall like me (5'10") ?!?!? All
perspective is lost! Thanks for the clarification.
Mama
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2002
Friday,
January 4
Dear VTwin Mama,
There are lowering kits available for a Yamaha (see
Cherie's original question), but I think you are looking for a cheaper
version of lowering your bike. First, it depends on how much lower you
want to make the bike. If it's just an inch, or less, you can have your
seat reworked to your specs. The company that comes to my mind is Sargent
Seats out of Florida. They will take your stock seat and re-work the seat
to your specs. If you still want the seat to look the same, they can keep
that look, or even customize it. They re-upholster them, insert what they
call supercell foam inserts, double row button tuck it, and trim it with
cord. If you have a backrest that needs a little bit of work done to they
can do all of this for just a little over $200. I'm sure shaving some foam
off the seat and yet maintain comfort can be done for even less if you
didn't want to get the whole nine yards. You can call them at
800-749-7328, or check out their site at www.sargentcycle.com.
Hope this helps you some.
Rain, Biker Ally Magazine
Dear Rain,
Who knew there was such a science to the whole up/down thing?!?
Glad you could give Cherie a "leg up" on understanding some
other options to explore.
Mama
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Monday,
January 7
Dear VTwin Mama,
Regarding selection criteria for V Twins (see
Foxee's original question): I certainly have several extremely
scientific criteria for selecting the perfect V Twin. First, when you sit
down on it (and your feet touch nicely) and you notice that your heartbeat
increases somewhat, then it might be the right bike for you. Then, when
you step away from it and look back at it you realize that you are in
'love', then it might be the right bike for you. And finally, when after
looking at all the specs and information you can find on other makes and
models, you keep coming back to the same bike, then it might be the right
bike for you. I've found that as long as the bike meets my basic criteria,
(height, weight, basic style, etc.) it all comes down to what speaks to
your heart.
Regarding Rain's response (Jan. 4) for lowering the
seat (see Cherie's original question): Sargents
is here in Jacksonville. I have several friends who have used them for
custom seat work. They are excellent. Just my two cents worth.
Linda in Jax
Dear Linda,
That was more like a dollars worth and we appreciate it! I really
like the heartbeat analysis -- besides the technical and practical
details, it helps if you flip over the gosh darn thing as well. And that
doesn't mean it has to be a chrome loaded beauty with custom everything --
it simply means it has to make you want to hit the road and ride your butt
off.
You would think with the vibration in my old '76
Shovelhead that I'd have a smaller derriθre by this point. Sigh.
Mama
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Friday,
February 1
Dear VTwin Mama,
(This is from Shorty600): Just
want to thank everyone for their in put on bike size. I have decided to
keep my 600 Shadow and have my husband put a lowering kit on it.
As for what to pack on your bike,
don't forget the faithful ball cap for the flat hair, and I didn't see
anyone mention an extra pair of shoes (for a rainy day).
I also want to mention for the winter riders, watch
out for the sand left on the roads. Here in Indiana they have too much
salt and sand on hand, they hear bad weather and they are out dumping sand
and salt every where. Shorty600
Dear Shorty600,
Glad we could help with some info on bike choice and thanks for the
rest of the input -- you actually beat Jo Ann F. to the salt/sand
question!
Mama
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Thursday,
February 28
Dear VTwin Mama,
PLEASE help! I stand at 4'10" and just purchased a Kawasaki 250. My
toes are BARELY grazing the ground. I heard there are lowering kits but
after some research, found them only for 500s and large ccs. Is there
someone who makes them for the Kawasaki 250? I would hate to give up on
this very exciting hobby just because of my short stature.
Longing for Length
Dear Longing,
I did some searching on the Internet myself and as you found out,
the research is . . . fuuuuunnnnnnn. I talked with a rep at Accessory
International and he said if your model is the Eliminator and has dual
shocks, he has shorter shocks which would lower the bike by 1.5 to 2
inches without affecting wheel travel.
At Scoot
Works I found a page for Kawasaki lowering kits for all KL
and KLR models that would lower it 2 to 3 inches.
Maybe we have some VTwin Mama sisters with advice for
you. As I mentioned in my response email when you wrote in, the Short
Biker site is always a good place to start for the vertically . . .
well, short biker!
Mama
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Friday,
March 1
Dear VTwin Mama,
This
is for "Longing for Length" (who is only 4'10"). While
waiting for a more permanent fix to her problem (lowering the bike), there
is always the option of those high-soled boots. You need to be careful
when you purchase them though, and make sure they won't interfere with
shifter or brake operation. Good luck!
Chris
Dear Chris,
What a thoughtful suggestion! I remember now that my friend Cindy
had a pair of her riding boots altered (several times!) until they let her
firmly rest her feet on the ground and yet not interfere with shifting,
etc. I think the boot maker was scratching his head somewhere along the
way! Still, a wise insight that might help Longing for Length in the short
or even long term.
Mama
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Tuesday,
March 5
Dear VTwin Mama,
I was able to gain an
inch (or lose one, depends on how you look at it), simply by putting a
low profile solo seat on my Sporty. Altogether, I was able to lower the
bike by about 3" with the lower seat, shorter shocks, and by
shortening the fork height. I bought boots that have a 1" platform
with a 2" heel. The boots are sturdy. I wouldn't go any higher
with the heel. Find a woman who rides who works in a bike shop. She is an
invaluable asset to a new rider. Don't give up.
Annie
Dear Annie,
It looks like you employed all the strategies at your disposal!
Love your tip on finding a riding gal who works in a bike shop to learn
helpful hints -- she's probably seen more than most of us!
Mama
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Monday, December 2
Dear VTwin Mama,
I have a 85 Virago, 1000cc. Is there any safe way of lowering it about 2
inches? It is lowered as much as we can do it without changing out shocks,
but don't know if this will work, or if some other way I haven't thought
about. I have a Corbin seat and thought about taking out some of the
padding, but don't want to take chance of ruining it. This is a problem
because I keep falling over when I stop. I have even put an extra inch sole
on my boots. Short
Nurse
Dear Short Nurse,
This sounds like a question for your local dealer because you've
listed all the standard methods to lower the bike or add height to your
legs. No other tricks up my sleeve!
Mama
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2003
Monday, January 20
Dear VTwin Mama,
I just ordered a Corbin Seat for my bike -- it's called the Gunfighter and
I was told it will lower me 1" and bring me 1 ½ inches closer to the
handlebars. When I called them they told me to give them a lot of
information -- my bike's seat high and my inseam and they will adjust the
seat -- by taking some stuff from inside -- they still guarantee the seat
will be very comfortable. Just wanted to share.
Angela Kosar
Dear Angela,
How very accommodating they are! Truly useful info for women
seeking to lower their butts closer to the ground so their feet can reach
without having to tippytoe it.
Mama
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Tuesday, January 28
Dear VTwin Mama,
ScootWorks specializes
in lowering packages for many metric bikes, and works with riders having
inseam lengths of 25" and less. We have an 800 Drifter in the shop now,
for fitment to a 4'11" female rider. We're very familiar with things like
lowering the center of gravity, reduction of trail in the steering head,
shortening levers and pedals, etc...important stuff to the vertically
challenged rider :-) We have many small female customers as a result. My wife
is 5'1", and rides an 800 Vulcan (about 50,000 miles on her '99 model).
Dave, Tech Support at ScootWorks.com
Dear Dave,
Thanks for bringing your site to our attention -- lowering bikes is
a frequent topic of discussion at VTwin Mama -- so we appreciate the info.
Readers, this looks like a good source of information for anyone
interested in getting off their tippy toes!
Mama
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Wednesday, March 12
Dear VTwin Mama,
Does anyone make a lowering kit for a 2002 Honda Shadow Spirit 1100? Is
there any other way to lower the seat height of this bike by at least an
inch?
S. Milliser
Dear S.,
Here's another question that deserves it's own special section --
so I pulled out all the relevant past material and put it in the new Working
on the Bike -- Lowering the Bike section. I've also
added a Lowering Kit chart
which is very much a work in progress.
I was not able to immediately discover a lowering kit for
your bike, so I called my local Honda dealer's Parts Department. They knew
of no lowering kits for that bike, but they just got in their new Cobra catalog
and it looked like they have something for the Shadow 1100 (not sure if for
the whole series). You could email Cobra at customer.service@cobrausa.com
and ask (since its not up on their website yet) -- specifically for their
"Cruiser Products."
My dealer also mentioned Progressive Suspension -- and
visiting that site, I think I hit pay dirt! Take a look at this page: http://www.progressivesuspension.com/appview.asp?AppsNumber=53.
It indicates they have a lowering kit for your bike (no details given)! Now
you just need to use their Dealer Finder feature in the left column of that
page and make a phone call!
Note for other readers: use Progressive's
Application Finder feature and enter your make, model and year and
you'll see if there is a lowering kit for your bike as well!
One thing I'm finding out is that if the lowering kit is
just for the front fork, this may not yield the result you are looking for.
If none of this pans out, the other suggestion we've had at this site over
time is to bring your seat in to a specialist and have some of the
"stuffing" shaved out of it. Or get a new seat altogether -- Corbin
is the most mentioned name then. I hope you find your solution in one of
these suggestions!
Mama
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Saturday, March 29
Dear VTwin Mama,
Want to lower a 650 V-Star for free? No lowering kit needed here. The
method we used on mine was the "Julio Slam." For directions, go
to
the Fast
Eddy web site. Hugs
Bootygrandma (aka Betty)
Dear Betty,
Thanks for the heads-up on this do-it-yourself article. For V-Star
owners, there are additional How-To's posted on this site, including
installing cruise control, working on the exhaust pipes and more.
Mama
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Tuesday,
May 20
Dear VTwin Mama,
I just bought a 2003 1200 Custom Sportster. I grew up in a motorcycle riding
family, and I am a pretty good rider. I am not rich, but I could have
purchased any bike that I wanted to make payments on. I just like Sportsters.
Anyway, is there any way to lower the bike? I have looked at rear suspension
lowering kits, but they all exclude the 1200 custom model. I am not short,
but I need to be a little closer to the ground. I may have to change the
seat in order to give me an inch or so lower seat height. But my stock seat
is so comfortable. Can you advise? Thanx, Running Deer
Dear Running Deer,
I double checked my own Lowering
Kit page only to be reminded that Progressive Suspension, one of the
bigger suspension companies around, has an Application
Finder for rear lowering kits made by them. You just select your make,
model and year and the chart will indicate if there is something for your
bike. In reading ads for bikes for sale of your model is that White
Bros. has a front spring lowering kit for that bike, but lowering the
front end is not the same and may not do it for you. Try these sources or
call your local HD dealer and note these two companies and see if they can
help.
I can appreciate that
you don't want to get rid of a seat that has proven it is comfortable, but
in the end you might need to consider going to Corbin for a new seat. Many
VTwin Mama sisters have noted that this was an excellent solution. Mama
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Wednesday,
May 28
For Running Deer whose
new bike is great, the seat is comfy but it needs to be lowered:
I too have a Custom 1200 Sportster and I
needed to be a little lower and closer to the handlebars. Also, my
bike has forward controls. It was suggested to me to check out
Corbin (seats) and I called and talked to them a few times over the winter.
When I was ready to order I provided them via fax information on the seat
high of the bike and my leg inseam, they inputted that and came up with a
Close Gunfighter seat for me with flames in the color of my bike.
It worked great and did not involve
lowering the bike. A friend of mine lowered his Sportster and felt the
bike was too stiff, that is why I did not want to lower it. I love the seat,
one thing that happened is that the seat ended where the frame ends,
exposing the oil tank, my leg rested on the tank and it got pretty hot, I
took a suggestion from another VTwin Mama and put on a tank cover. Now
I am so happy and think my bike is so hot . Angela
K. (note from Mama: watch out -- AK is rolling pretty and comfy this year!
She'll be screaming some miles this season!)
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Wednesday,
June 4
Dear VTwin Mama,
I can't find anyone who has a lowering kit for my bike. It is a 1999
883 Sportster Custom. Do you know of anyone who makes one? Thanks. Alison
Dear Alison,
According to my J&P Cycle HD catalog, there
is a White Brothers rear suspension lowering kit # 28-496 that is black and
fits Sportster 1989-1999 models (lowers the bike by 1" -- rear travel
is reduced by 1/2") for $74.99. The chrome version is # 28-522 for
$91.99. They are shown on page 380 of the free catalog.
You could
also try the Application
Finder at Progressive Suspension, but might only find a front fork
lowering kit here. Mama
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Thursday,
June 5
Dear VTwin Mama,
I really like the look and feel of the
lighter weight dual purpose bikes but they all seem to be too high seated
for us short people (5'3"). Is there anything I can do to lower
the seat without compromising the suspension? Thanks for any
suggestions, Kat
Dear Kat,
Since I'm not sure how much lower you are hoping to go, there are a
couple of things you can check in to. First, many women have simply had
the stuffing in their seat "shaved" by having a shop open up the
seat and get some of the interior material sculpted out. Or, you could
look into a new seat altogether. As I don't know the model of your bike,
you could take a look at the Corbin
seats -- many women swear by their alternative solutions which can
"lower" your seat. Last, you might consider adding some
"height" by redoing the heel on your riding boots. Just be sure
not to add too much that it would interfere with shifting/braking levers.
A good shoe repair shop could help here. Mama
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Thursday,
June 19
Dear VTwin Mama,
How do I lower my VStar 650 (rear) for free?
D. Floyd
Dear D.F.,
Dig out a pair of boots from your closet that date back to the 70s
when big heels were all the rage. This will add "height" to your
legs and get your feet flat on the ground, all at no additional cost to you!
Anything else requires money, including a lowering kit, different shock
absorber, shaving the seat or buying a new seat to better meet your needs. Mama
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Wednesday,
June 25
For D.F. who wanted to
lower a VStar 650 for free:
First of all, I currently ride a 1999 Yamaha V-Star 650
Classic. Second...yes, you can lower your V-Star for free. Since
I am a whopping 5' tall, that was the first thing we did to make my bike fit
me. The method is known as the Julio Slam. Basically it requires
removing the seat, and moving the shock forward about an inch or so (follow
the directions of course) and will allow you to lower the bike about 2
inches. You can find the directions at this web site: http://users.sptc.net/~wto/julio.html.
I hope this helps you. It is not hard...just takes a
little time. Hugs Bootygrandma, aka Betty (note from Mama:
well, that's egg on my face! Thanks for
sharing this site. I'll be sure to add it to the top of my Lowering the Bike
page!)
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Friday,
June 27
Dear VTwin Mama,
I was told that on a VStar 650 Classic, all one would have to do to lower it
was to move the swing arm bolt back one inch and that's all. Is this true
and how do I do this correctly? Webhed
Dear Webhed,
I've got two sites listed at the top of of my Lowering
the Bike page which chronicle lowering a VStar. Same procedure, but
different pictures. Check them out for exact tool requirements and
procedures to see if this is something you can do yourself. Technically, I
don't think you're actually repositioning the swing arm bolt; rather,
you're moving the bolt for the top of the shock that connects to the swing
arm. I think. Mama
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Friday, August 1
Dear
VTwin Mama,
Do they make a lowering kit for a 2001 Honda Spirit 1100?
Vicki
Dear
VTwin Mama,
How do you lower the seat height on a Suzuki Intruder 800? I have already
put a Corbin seat on it, but the whole bike has to be lowered some how. I'm
a gal only 4'10" and can't flat foot it. Please help -- I love this
bike.
Stumped in more ways than one . . .
Dear
Vicki and Stumped,
I'm not showing lowering kits through my
normal channels of lowering kit information for either bike. So I called Progressive
Suspension to see what was up with that! Basically, this company offers
shorter shocks (which lowers the rear end of the bike) and then recommends
lowering the front fork by the same amount (and they have those kits available)
so that the geometry of the overall bike does not change. My guess is you
could discuss a similar one-two technique with the service department of
your local dealer. Mama
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Tuesday, August
26
Dear
VTwin Mama,
You all seem to have a lot of good ideas about
how to lower the ride of a bike, so I hope you can help me. My girlfriend
is buying a 250 Ninja and is only 4'11. I know that they make lowering
kits for the Kawasaki 500s and bike like the F4i, but do they make one for
the Ninja 250? I have been unable to find one and was wondering if you
have any advice. I was thinking of having the padding in the seat cut down
but was wondering if there is any thing else you can do like cut the
suspension string a little or maybe use spring clamps. I am in desperate
need of some good advice, so if any one can help -- would be very happy.
Thanks.
No Name
Dear
NN,
Hmmmm . . . my usual sources showed no lowering kits or shorter
shocks and a call to a local dealer confirmed this. You might continue
exploring your options by posting your questions to a specific Ninja 250
discussion forum like this
one as they may know the ramifications of your alternative ideas of
cutting the suspension string or using spring clamps. At the same time,
it's only a phone call to your local dealer's service department to
discuss safe methods that they may know. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
Mama
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Friday,
August 29
For No Name looking to
lower his girlfriend's Ninja 250:
Try Adjustment Tech Racing at (705) 799-5139. They
have a lowering kit for the Ninja 250 that the "girls" have been
using and loving. You'll probably have to also modify the kick stand
after lowering the bike.
Gail (note from Mama: thank
you for bringing this to my attention -- the website address is www.adjustmenttech.com.)
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Monday,
October 20
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I have been looking for a lowering kit for my VN750 for a while now. If
you could e-mail me with a reason you all don't carry them or if you do, I
couldn't find one. But please, e-mail me back with how to get it lower.
Nick
Dear
Nick,
You are right! The standard sources for lowering kits don't offer
something for the Kawasaki VN750. However, there may be an alternative
solution. Check out the Progressive Suspension site -- they probably have a
shorter shock for your rear end and a corresponding front fork lowering kit
to match. According to this
page, it will work for 1985-2003 models! Mama
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2004
Wednesday,
January 28
Dear
VTwin Mama,
My wife just bought her first motorcycle.
Now she gets to ride along side of me versus behind me!
Jen
bought the Honda Spirit 750 '03. She is all of 5 foot even and am interested
in buying a lowering kit and risers to bring the handle bars into a
more comfortable riding position. Any recommendations on either topic. Was
trying to avoid custom handle bars, we think we need just about an
additional 3" pullback from the stock 7". Also, with
lowering kits, should we do both front and back shocks? Any
feed back would be great !! Paul Blackinton
Dear
Paul and Jen,
Yahoo! A new rider to join our ranks! Most readers have expressed
that pullback risers do the trick very nicely to put handlebars into
position. A quick check with the local dealer or the many aftermarket
companies on the Internet will reveal what pullbacks are available for
your model bike.
I
have had a number of conversations with Progressive Suspension and
ScootWorks on lowering a bike. Check my Lowering
Kits page for website addresses. It is definitely recommended that
when lowering the back of the bike, you also consider a front fork
lowering kit at the same time. The experts at either company are in
position to assist you further (and are very nice people to boot!).
Mama
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Thursday,
February 12
For Paul who is
looking to lower his wife Jen's bike:
Please tell your wife Jen I said Congratulations on her
new bike. . I have a 2002 Honda Spirit and I am only 5 ft. My honey
Jim installed the lowering kit from Scootworks.
You won't be sorry if you decide to do this for you wife. She will be able
to handle the bike better.
When I ordered it Jim tells me to order the 1.5"
lowering kit, well they made a mistake and sent the 2" lowering kit.
It works great. Jim was worried if we lowered it to much I would scrape
the peds. Not yet . . . and I take the curves very well . . . :-)
Marigold (note from Mama: thanks for the heads up on what worked with your
bike!)
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Thursday,
February 26
From Cherie who was
looking to lower her overall height on a Yamaha Seca:
I have a 1993 Seca II
that I lowered by simply have the upholstery in the seat redone. I tool the
seat to a custom shop who carved out approximately 1 1/2" of foam from
the seat. I recommend you replace with a compact gel pad, as the lack of
padding gets a little painful on long trips. Good luck!
Nicole Parara (note from Mama: good point! We've often mentioned that
shaving the padding in a seat can lower the body, but your point on getting
a gel pad is a good one!)
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Tuesday, March
2
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I am going into my 3rd riding season. My first bike was a Suzuki GZ250,
which was a great training bike. But I have my heart set on a Harley. At
5'0" and only 95 lbs. I don't feel like I have many choices. I hate the
Sportster. It's narrow, top-heavy design makes it difficult to lift off the
kickstand and uncomfortable to ride. The Low Rider would be my bike of
choice, however, I would need to lower it about another 2" and I've
been told that's not possible. That if you tried to lower it any more, you
would have the tire scraping the fender. Any suggestions?
No Name
Dear
NN,
This reminds me of the story of the semi truck that got jammed
under an underpass because it was too tall in height. All the adults could
do was try to think how big tow trucks were going to drag this thing out.
A little boy simply suggested that some air be let out of the tires and
then it could be backed out!
So,
if lowering the Low Rider won't get you down far enough, let's look at two
other things you could do. One, get a new seat. Or shave some of the
padding out of the stock seat. Two, "add" a little height to
your legs on your boot heels. Have a shoe repair shop modify the heels on
your boots (but not too much or it will interfere with your
shifting/braking).
Give
these alternatives some thought and revisit the dealer. Huh -- they should
have been exploring this with you from the get go!
Mama
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Wednesday,
March 3
For No Name who wants a
Low Rider, but can it be lowered for her 5'0" height? As
well as an opinion on the new '04 Sportster for V!
Check out the new '04 Sportsters. I think you will agree
that they have come a long way on the disadvantages of the Sportsters. The
overall seat height is lower now by almost a 1.5" -- this makes
the center of gravity of the bike lower . If you went with a lower profile
seat on the bike this would also help. I think the '04 Custom Sporty looks
the best out of the Sportsters line up -- comes with drag bars and solid
disk rear wheel, 21 " front spoked wheel and has a lot more chrome
on it then the others. This is the bike I'm considering buying for my wife
and she is 5' 2" 120lbs wet.
If you did go with the Low Rider you can change the rear
shocks over to 11" shocks without it being a problem in bottoming out
or scrapping. I have done this to many of my friends bikes, 2 of which are
Low Riders. They ride 2 up and have no problems. I just have to say the
comfort of the ride will be compromised. It will be a lot stiffer -- you
will be going from almost 3" of travel to about a 1.5" of travel.
I would suggest the Progressive
11 " shocks if you were to do this -- they give the best ride in my
opinion. You could also go with a air ride suspension for around $800 --
this will let you change the ride height as you want. Lot of money though.
If you like I can send you pictures of my Superglide with the 11"
progressives on it. David (note from Mama: so much
valuable information here, and lots of input on the new '04 Sportster that
many have been asking about. As always, I value your contribution and
appreciate the time you take to share your knowledge with us!)
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Friday,
March 19
Just read the comments
from Dave in response to the question about lowering a HD Dyna Low Rider:
My sister got her 2003 Low Rider last August and had it
lowered with the Progressive shocks. She loves it. She, like me,
is 5' tall; we weigh about 110 pounds so aren't very big, but are quite able
to handle the bike; it is extremely well balanced. My 2004 Low Rider
should be here within the month; I plan to change out the stock seat and
replace it with the Corbin "Close Gunfighter" which Corbin says
will lower the seat by 1 3/4". . . hopefully then won't have to
fool with changing out the shocks. By the way, love your web site. .
.we are obsessed with riding; have our own little gang. . .our husbands both
have Fatboys and a girlfriend has an HD Heritage Softail. . . .riding is a
blast! LC in PC
(note from Mama: thanks for sharing the bikes that make sense for you and
your sister. I've added your info to my NEW
Motorcycles for
Short Riders page! And yes, riding is a dream come true!)
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Tuesday,
April 27
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I am a 5'1" petite female. I am
taking the Basic Rider Course on May 14-16th. I bought a bike
several weeks ago and have rode it in the church parking lot several
times. It is a Kawasaki 600zl. It feels great and I love my bike, but the
only problem is that my feet do not sit firmly on the ground, they are
more like a tippy toe position. I read were you said this is a big NO NO -
WHY? My shocks are set down as low as they can. If this could create a
real problem, how else can I lower my bike?
Kelly
Dear
Kelly,
It's not that tippy toe riding is wrong, it's that it doesn't
afford you as much control on uneven terrain stops, slanting parking
situations and the like. Since the shocks are already lowered, if you want
to get off your toes, then you can investigate having a professional shave
some of the padding out of your seat or consider a different seat (many
women note that the Corbin
line of seats can do this!). It's worth investigating.
Mama
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Tuesday,
April 27
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I am looking for a lowering kit for a 1996
Honda Shadow VLX 600. If you have any information, I would appreciate it.
No Name
Dear
No Name,
Take a look at my Lowering
Kits page and you'll find your bike listed. At the bottom of the page
is the link to Progressive Suspension for another source.
Mama
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Sunday,
May 2
For Kelly whose bike is
as low as it will go but is still on tippy toes:
As a 5' tall rider who has lowered her bike but refuses
to give up her precious Mustang seat...I found that different boots
helped. The ones I just got has a slightly thicker sole on
them. I was amazed at how something so slight could make such a
difference! Bootygrandma, aka Betty (note
from Mama: I had the opposite problem . . . got new boots and had to
readjust the shifter to accommodate the extra height!)
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Monday, May 3
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I am looking to lower the rear on my 2004 Road King Custom FLHRS. Any
suggestions? Thank you. Rich
Dear
Rich,
I would check out Progressive
Suspension's application finder to see if a different shock would make
the difference.
Mama
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Wednesday, May
5
Dear
VTwin Mama,
My husband bought me lowering blocks for my
'79 Kawasaki 650. I can ride it as is, but the height is scary. I am
5'3" and a very new rider. Hubby has built many bikes from the
ground up and will install blocks some day when he's not riding. I do all
my own car repair. Where can I get instructions so I can install the
lowering blocks myself? Debra
Dear
Debra,
I would have thought that instructions would have been bundled with
the lowering kit, but if not, look for two clues to find instructions: 1)
who is the manufacturer and 2) from whom was the kit purchased?
Many
aftermarket companies offer instructions right from their site! If not
available there, do a search on the Internet for the manufacturer, where you
are most likely going to find online downloads of instructions -- or at the
very least, an 800# to call to get the instructions (including necessary
tools, etc.). Other than that, all I can suggest is that you look for a
discussion forum specific to your model bike and ask there. Good luck!
Mama
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Saturday, May
8
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I am looking for a lowering kit for a 2004 Sportster 883 Hugger.
Ken
Dear
Ken,
According to my local Harley dealer, they don't know of one.
Suggested modifications are shorter shocks and lower seat choice.
Mama
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Wednesday,
May 12
For Ken who is looking
for a lowering kit for a 2004 Hugger:
I have a 2002 Hugger that I also needed to lower it.
I did not get new shocks or a new seat. Someone I knew gave me a
lowering kit from an 883 Harley that he had, not a Hugger. I don't
know what they are called but they are just 2 small metal pieces that are
attached to the adjuster for the belt and the lower bolt for the shock.
They pull the shock into a different angle, lowering the bike by 1 inch.
They worked perfect for me so don't give up looking. If I run into the guy
I got them from I will ask exactly what they are called and where he got
them. This was much cheaper than a new seat and new shocks.
Judy Coyle (note
from Mama: so, I took a look in my J&P Cycles 2003 catalog (page 380)
and I see two metal pieces offered by White Brothers that sounds like what
you got. Lowers the bike by 1" by relocating the bottom shock mount
further back. Says its not for Hugger 883, but it sounds like it worked
for you!)
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Thursday, May 13
Dear
VTwin Mama:
I'm considering buying my five foot wife a '03 500 Ninja. She now rides a
'98 250 Ninja that I lowered. The company that made the lowering links does
not make them for an '03. Any idea where I might find a source?
Wally
Dear
Wally,
Hmmmm . . . the only thing my Internet searching led me to was
another site for women riders who favor sporty style bikes -- and it may be
worth visiting them for their discussion forums: Femmoto
and Speedy Bike
Girls to get their scoop on the question.
Also,
have you talked with the local Ninja dealer about the possibility of
shorter shocks or modifying the lower bolt position of the shock to bring
this bike down a notch? Not sure if this is possible, but it's worth a
discussion with the parts and service departments!
Mama
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Sunday,
May 16
From Wally who was
looking to lower a '03 500 Ninja:
I found the adjustable lowering links at a company in
Canada. It took two E-mails, the first reply said they didn't have them but
fortunately they replied to the second that they had them. http://www.adjustmenttech.com/
Wally (I'm happy to hear you found the solution --
and appreciate that you took the time to note this and provide the link.
Every bit of information potentially helps another reader!)
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Saturday, May
22
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I just love this web site and Im so glad
it's here! I have noticed that many riders lower their bikes using
Progressive shocks. Would you be able to tell me which ones I should get
to lower my Sportster -- I did change to a low profile back tire and that
brought my bike down one inch (Im 51,short legs) but Id like
to really change the shocks out to help lower as well. Thanks so much. Chris
Horn
Dear
Chris,
Glad you like the site! Progressive is actually Progressive
Suspension, and on their site, you'll find their Application
Finder. Just click on your year, make, model and all their choices
will pop up for you. Still need to talk it out?! Then you'll find their
800 number as well.
Mama
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Monday, May 31
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I bought a 2004 1800 Goldwing. I love it but it is just a little high for
me. I'm all right when I'm riding alone but when my wife gets on I have to
be more careful. I just want to know if some where out there their is a
lowering kit for this bike and if yes, where can I pick one up? If not, any
other suggestions. Hope to here from you soon.
Denis Fortin
Dear
Denis,
Yikes, my Internet search revealed nothing, not even from
Progressive Suspension, which usually has solutions. Have you contacted
your local dealer's parts department to explore stock or aftermarket
possibilities? My only other thought is that you may want to consider
changing out the seat or shaving just a tad out of the rider area padding.
Mama
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Tuesday, June 1
Dear
VTwin Mama,
Just found your site and love it! I have only been riding for about 3
weeks on a Honda Rebel 250. Just purchased a Suzuki Marauder 800 to move
up to. Someone recently gave me a '81 Suzuki GSX750 which I am customizing
by reworking the frame to lower the seat and moving the pegs. I have a lot
of experience building hot rod cars so this is a bit different and new but
some things are similar in nature.
My
biggest trouble is that I am only 5 ft tall so I need to find good ways to
lower the 800. Does anyone make a lowering kit or am I limited to cutting
down the shocks? Also, floorboards seem to be almost nonexistent for the Marauder
800. Any ideas? Dorathy Biddinger
Dear
Dorathy,
Sounds like you're having waaaay too much fun!
I
was unable to locate a lowering kit, but did find floorboards for both the
rider and passenger in the J&P
Cycles and Dennis
Kirk metric catalogs. However, both say they fit the '97-'03 models (and
you didn't mention the year of the 800 Marauder), so this may or may not be
a solution! Both catalogs are FREE, so I would definitely get those and then
let's see if any readers have other solutions!
Mama
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Friday, June 11
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I have a 800 Volusia and I'm having trouble finding a lowering kit. Can you
help? I've looked everywhere online. Thanks. Julie
Stevens
Dear
Julie,
Well, I couldn't find one online either so I called my local Suzuki
dealer and they couldn't find one, stock or aftermarket. But all is NOT
lost! While trolling on the Internet, I found the Volusia
Owner's League site with a discussion forum and there is definitely a
way to lower the bike (although specifics were not given). Still, hop onto
the site, register, and then go to the message board. Search for
"lowering kit" strings and you'll find kindred spirits!
Mama
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Saturday, June
12
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I am only 4'9" and I
recently purchase a '98 Ninja 250. I can ride it but I am on my
tip-toes. What can I do to lower it and is there a lowering kit for it?
Thanks. Angela
Dear
Angela,
I did a search on the Internet, and came up with a posting
on my own site! And found that I've got the bike listed on my Motorcycles
for Short Riders page, which shows your bike and that it's been
lowered. So, obviously, it can be done.
But,
I don't have specifics. I'm hoping that the person who lowered this bike
is still an active reader and will chime in with the exact solution!
Meanwhile,
there is a posting from Wally on
lowering his Ninja 500 and the company that helped him. Maybe they can
help you too!
Mama
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Thursday, June
24
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I have a 2002 Sportster 1200cc and I would like to lower it to fit me.
I am 5'1" and about 95 lbs. Trying to ride but I lack confidence
because of my size. Can you give me the info needed so I can enjoy riding
side by side with my husband? I feel if the Sportster felt more
comfortable for me I could fly.... Thank you,
Rose M. Bonbrake
Dear
Rose,
There are a number of ways to lower a bike. When we talk about
lowering kits, we really are talking about moving the shock attachment
point to the rear swingarm. J&P Cycles should have something to meet
your needs as they are a big aftermarket part house for Harley
motorcycles.
Another
solution is to check to see if a shorter shock is available, possibly from
Progressive
Suspension or check with your local dealer. And then you can do some
other things, like shave part of your seat padding, check into a new seat
(Corbin is a good
place to look) that will lower your butt or even add just a bit of heel to
your riding boots.
Now,
go check these suggestions out, find the solution that best meets your
needs and budget and then . . . fly VTwin Mama sister! Mama
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Thursday, June
24
Dear
VTwin Mama,
You talked about lowering kits, but I looked through everything and couldn't
find any links to manufacturers that make them. Know of any for a '96 Moto
Guzzi 1100cc? Thank you. Adam
Dear
Adam,
Bad news. I couldn't find any information on a lowering kit for the
Guzzi either. You'll need to call the parts department of your nearest
dealer and inquire, unless Marina, our resident Guzzi aficionado of
everything Guzzi writes in with information! Mama
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Thursday, June
24
Dear
VTwin Mama,
Am looking for a lowering kit for my ol' ladies 1980 Honda CM 400. When
she stops, her feet don't land flat, just her toes touch. Want to make it
easier even if custom made. Also can't seem to locate shorter shocks.
Please help ....thanks. "Where's
Lance"
Dear
Where's Lance,
Hmmmm . . . out of production bikes take a little bit more to find
solutions. You might try cruising (!) around eBay's motor section to see
if there is anything. Other solutions are to shave out part of the seat
and/or add a bit more heel to riding boots for your gal. These might be
quicker and easier. Mama
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Saturday,
June 26
For Rose who wants to
lower a Sporty 1200:
Drag Specialties has a relocation bracket that works on
Sportster's, to lower the rear shock by repositioning it. If using an 11
inch (the smallest recommended for a Sportster) the bracket positions the
shock in such a way as to convert it to simulate a 10 inch shock. The part
is called "Relocation Bracket for rear shocks."
I am also only five feet tall and found this one inch
difference to be substantial. Corbin as a "Close-up Gun Fire" seat
that is very low profile and fits the small body frame perfectly. This also
makes a huge difference in riding position height... Hope this helps. This
week I'm changing the front fork tubes and putting on shorter ones as well
as putting in a shorter progressive spring. That will bring the bike down
another two inches. All together I have lowered my position about 3 to 3 1/
inches - HUGE difference! Girl you have to have your feet on the ground to
ride !!! Tina (note from Mama: thanks for pointing
out solutions that are making a difference for you -- and another venue for
Rose to check out. We've also had many positive reviews of the Corbin seat
you mention.)
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Saturday,
June 26
For Adam who is looking
to lower a Moto Guzzi:
I don't think that Adam will find anything for lowering a
'96 California, but I know of some people who have solved their seat height
problems with the seat shaving/modifying ideas. There are links to a bunch
of seat rebuilders on my links page at http://www.armory.com/~marina/links.html
. Some rebuilders can do some creative seat shaping, too (to keep the front
of the seat narrow), which helps. Good luck to Adam!
Marina (note from Mama: you're my Guzzi guru Marina -- thanks for checking
the site and seeing this one!)
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Monday, July 5
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I enjoy your website which I just found while surfing. I am a male, so I
hope I am not intruding. I have a 1981 Honda CM 400, it's a great
commuter/sports bike. I would like to lower it (I am on the short side) by
replacing the rear shocks (11.5 inches) with shorter ones, maybe 10 inches.
I have been informed by a couple of shops that the shortest shocks available
are 11 inches. Do you have any info that you could pass on to me re:
supplier of shorter shocks? Thanks, Frank
Dear
Frank,
All readers are welcome at the VTwin Mama site and thanks for
writing in! Unfortunately, I also could not find shorter shocks for your
bike as well. And we've had a few postings on this subject already.
So
now I'm going to put forth an idea with no technical certainty, but a
thought. Many bikes are lowered by repositioning the mounting hole of the
bolt of the upper end of the shock. By moving the hole forward and down
just a bit (1" or so), the bike is lowered. As I said, I'm not sure
if this is something that could be done on the CM400, but it's worth
taking a look at -- maybe with an independent bike shop in your area?
Bikes
are also lowered by maintaining that upper bolt position, but adding a
bracket that effectively relocates where the shock connects, either at the
top or at the bottom. Same principle, but less invasive to the bike. I'd
take a look at the aftermarket parts houses (just search for lowering
brackets) to get an idea of what I'm talking about. Perhaps something like
this could work on your bike, but I would still advise consulting with a
bike mechanic to maintain the integrity of the bike and it's handling
characteristics. Mama
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Tuesday, July 20
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I need to know if anyone has been successful lowering a Honda 599 - the
model year I am interested in is 2004. I want to switch from a
cruiser to a sport standard bike for ease of handling but need
to lower about 2 inches. Can you help with information?
Gina Wilson
Is
there a lowering kit available for the 599 or CB600F4 -- 2004 Honda? My
wife recently purchased one and would like it a little lower.
Garry
Dear
Gina and Garry (unrelated to each other, but the letters came in two days
apart!),
If your local dealer has been unable to assist you, I can tell you
from experience that the aftermarket parts houses most likely do not have
a solution yet for 2004 models. However, many bikes are lowered by adding
a weird shaped bracket that repositions where the shock(s) bolt in,
effectively lowering the bike, so you may try the hunt for previous model
years that would still work with your bike. Or you may find shorter shocks
available (Progressive
Suspension is one place to look by clicking on their Application
Finder link). I'm also going to recommend that you visit the Speedy
Bike Girls site as they have more direct knowledge with the sporty
bikes than this site. Mama
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Wednesday,
July 28
For Longing for Length
on lowering a Kawi 250:
You can also change the tire size in the rear to a 60 from
an 80 and lower the bike about an inch and you can take the seat to an
upholsterer and have 1.5 inches taken out of the seat i did this for my
wife's 250 Ninja. Danny (note from Mama: thanks
for the reminder that a tire change can make a difference as well -- this is
a point I keep forgetting, but now have on my Motorcycles
for Short Riders page.)
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Wednesday,
July 28
From Gina to Garry, both
who were looking to lower a Honda 599:
I have spoken to Chad at Bikes2nv.com and he says he
can lower this bike. I have been told that this rear suspension has
no linkage, but Chad assures me it does and can be lowered using this
linkage or he can fabricate linkage. He is going to the Mid-Ohio races
this weekend and promises to find out more information there by talking to
race teams, owners and manufacturers. Bikes2nv phone number is 614-837-4009.
I haven't purchased the 599 yet because without lowering the bike I won 't
be able to ride it at 5'2". Good luck. Gina (note from Mama:
riders helping other riders -- thanks for the research!)
Added note from 7/29: I have since learned
from Bikes2nv.com that lowering a 599 is not possible. The shock preset can
be changed, but there is no linkage as such and a shorter shock wouldn't
make enough difference in my case to lower it enough. Maybe next year. In
the mean time I am investigating the Suzuki Standard bikes. Thank you for
your assistance.
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Thursday,
August 5
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I have a 2004 Ninja 250. All motorcycle shops I've been to say there is no
way to lower them. So how is someone that is 5ft tall like me lowering them
a few inches? Thanx Christle
Dear
Christle,
A
Ninja 250 can be lowered. Here is a
posting about the company who helped Wally lower his 500 Ninja and my
guess is they can help you as well! Mama
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Saturday,
August 7
From Christle who was
looking to lower her Ninja 250:
Yes, I have [found a solution]
thanx, at www.adjustmenttech.com.
They were able to lower it three inches.
Christle (note from Mama: this is the same company that helped Wally with
his Ninja 500. I'll make sure to add this information to my Lowering Kits
page!)
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Tuesday,
August 10
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I am looking into buying a Kawasaki 250... it's perfect but would feel more
comfortable if it was lowered an inch or two. How would I lower the seat,
and if I can't do it myself, who would you recommend me to go to? Any info
would help. Thank you!!! Linda
Dear
Linda,
Congrats on your new adventure! Kawasaki has made a lot of
different 250cc bike models over the years, but if you're talking about a
Ninja 250, then this
company can help with a lowering kit.
Otherwise,
you could go to an independent shop or dealer to have the seat shaved down
some or check their catalogs for a seat that will lower you (have a clear
picture in your mind of what your current seat looks like or actually take
a picture so you can compare!). You might also check into shorter shocks
that will help some. You can always add a little bit of heel to your
riding boots to make up any difference, but not too much or it will interfere
with your shifting and braking abilities. Hope this gives you some more
"food for thought!"
Mama
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Friday,
August 13
Dear
VTwin Mama,
How can I lower my 1999 Honda Shadow VT 750 or where can I find a lowering
kit? Lisa
Dear
Lisa,
It
looks like ScootWorks
should be able to help you as they have solutions for Hondas in the
600-750cc range. Mama
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Thursday,
August 19
Dear
VTwin Mama,
Is there a company that makes a lowering kit for a 2004 Suzuki Intruder
800? Ray
Dear
Ray,
According
to an article I happened across, the Intruder 800 can be lowered by using
a kit from Progressive
Suspension. Or, you can reach them by calling 760.948.4012. Mama
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Thursday,
August 19
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I am writing you in hopes that you can point me in the right direction for
lowering kits for a 1987 Honda Shadow (700cc). Any information you can give
me would be a great help. Thank you, Michael R.
McClure
Dear
Michael,
I
couldnt find an actual kit, but you might try to see if there are
shorter shocks available for your bike. Try this page at Progressive
Suspension to see if it fits the bill! If you cant find a hardware
solution, dont forget that a different seat can lower you
significantly, or you might want to consider shaving some of the foam out
of your current seat. Mama
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Monday,
September 6
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I want to lower my new V-Star 650 and found your site. What is the Julio
Blast? Readers say to follow the instructions. Where do I get them?
Vicki
Dear
Vicki,
Congrats
on the new bike! It's actually called the Julio Slam, by Julio Hernandez.
I had a link at one time, but then it disappeared. A new search found it
again: http://users.sptc.net/~wto/Julio.html.
Mama
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Thursday,
September 9
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I have several questions grouping into one. I'm cheating, I know.
Anyway,
I just bought a used Yamaha 750CC two weeks go. I'm about 5'8" and it
seems a little too big for me. That is, when I sit on the bike and put
both feet on the ground, I cannot flat feet it. However, if I put my right
foot on the break, the other is comfortably flat on the ground. Do you
think the bike is too large or just right for me? I'm a little bit
intimidated because this is my first bike.
I know the basic of all of the controls like clutch and
brake, and I've been riding up and down the alley street (straight line only).
People are telling me how difficult it is to make a turn due to the speed -
not too fast and not too slow. For this reason, I haven't try it yet. Do you
have any advice how to make a turn with a right speed? I'm afraid that the
bike may lean too much and fall. I don't think I can pick it back up it it
falls. Thanks. Duke
Dear
Duke,
No
problem, you're just starting out and have lots of questions!
From
previous postings it has been noted that it isn't absolutely necessary to
be flat footed at a dead stop, but the consensus remains that most riders
feel more in control if they are. A simple fix would be to get riding
boots with a touch more heel or investigate a seat that would lower you
somewhat.
Making
a turn at the right speed takes practice, and an alley isn't the place to
begin trying! You want to have room about you without obstacles or
distractions that allow you begin practice with plenty of breathing space
so that wider turns can be first done so you get the hang of it! Any
chance you know an experienced rider that could get the bike to an empty
parking lot for practice?! That would be the ideal solution. Don't kid
yourself on this point . . . if you don't know anyone, how about checking
with local dealers to see what riding groups are around, and then go
introduce yourself! Find a mentor. Really.
I
agree that not knowing how to pick up the bike can cause even more tension
in your riding sessions because what are you going to do if it happens?
The answer is: learn to pick up the bike! Here
is one site with picture by picture instructions. Then, get a piece of
old carpet or something, lay the bike down, and give it a whirl (have a
friend assist in the lowering of the bike!). Once you master this, your
confidence will soar!
Mama
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Friday,
September 10
For Duke who is
beginning to ride and had questions on seat height and turns:
Hi there . . . reading your site on my lunch hour, and had
to send along a few ideas for Duke . . .
First, if you feel the bike is too high for you, have you
looked into a lowering kit? It could drop the bike an inch or two (which
doesn't seem like a lot, but it is), help you feel more grounded. And the
idea that VTG [VTwin Goddess :)] gave about getting boots with a bit of a
heel is great . . . I did that and it did help me.
Second, as far as turns go, I just got a video to help me
with the same thing. I found the info on VTG site, and can't wait to try out
the techniques. It is at www.ridelikeapro.com.
The video I got is for ladies who seem to have a good riding foundation set,
as it addressed things like tight turns, leaning, and tips to keep the bike
upright no matter what the lean or the speed. I would imagine they would
have a video that could give you some tips as well. And how about a riding
class . . . have you taken that? Hope this helps a bit, and good luck!!!
Julie (note from Mama: thanks for the additional points and elevating
me to Goddess status . . . so much to live up to now! Yes, the video you
point out has been a real life saver for many riders who need to master
skills or are looking to hone their technique . . . listen folks, riding is
a life time commitment to learning, and there is NO getting around that
fact!)
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Monday,
September 13
Dear
VTwin Mama,
After reading your web site, Motorcycles
for Short Riders, I came across something. In a chart it had Intruder /
5'3" / Lowered front and back; shaved seat; new seat height is
24". Can you let me know what products were used too lower front and
back? Any info will be helpful. Thanks. Ray
Dear
Ray,
If
specific products used are given in the original letter which prompts the
posting, I include them. In this case, however, they are not. I would take a
look at this page on the Progressive
Suspension site, which shows a front fork lowering kit and alternative
shocks (shorten the length and you lower the bike) for Intruder 800s from
1992-2003. I also checked my J&P Metric Cruiser and the Dennis Kirk
Metric aftermarket parts catalogs, but both showed Progressive shocks and
fork lowering kits when I looked up the lowering kits pages. This seems to
be the solution. Unless someone with an Intruder chimes in with another
solution!
Mama
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Monday,
September 13
For Dorathy who was
looking to lower her Marauder:
I just put on a set of Honda Rebel shocks on my Marauder
and it lowered me a good inch and a half. I also cut the stock seat and
recovered it giving me another inch and a half. Good luck with it.
No Name (note from Mama: thanks for this input!)
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Tuesday,
September 21
Dear
VTwin Mama,
Looking for a lowering kit (front & back) for a Honda Shadow 1100 ACE.
Can you direct? Lou Fister
Dear
Lou,
Well, what I found was this
page from Progressive Suspension, which offers different shock lengths
and a front end lowering kit. All the big aftermarket catalogs seem to be
carrying the same Progressive solutions. Sorry, but that's all I could find.
Mama
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Monday,
September 27
Dear
VTwin Mama,
Need to lower front & rear of EX500 Kawasaki. Thanks for your help.
Dean
Dear
Dean,
Sorry, but all I found on my Internet search where more people with
the same question. Perhaps posting to a Kawasaki discussion forum would
net more input . . . try
this one.
Mama
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Monday,
September 27
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I have more incredible "options" to share with your readers! I
have found another way to lower a Sportster an additional two inches!
After the rider has tried every conventional method on the market I
suggest this -- take that big 19+ inch wheel off the front of the
bike and have Rich of DetroitWheelz@aol.com
lace the Harley hub to an 18 inch rim for you.
Once
that is done you can put a smaller tire on that front wheel and viola, the
bike is a full 2 inches lower!!! Not any wheel will work. Rich is a
specialist in this field and I suggest your readers write to him for the
particulars. I met him via eBay. He has excellent references and
exceptional pricing! Please check him out Petra, he is the BEST!!! I will
be glad to send any of your readers a picture of the two wheels, side by
side, so that they can see the huge difference themselves. Contact me at rsvp@directcon.net.
Also, riders, if you have a 140 tire on the rear wheel, change it out for
a 130, that will bring the bike down even more.
Tina Reeves in California
Dear
Tina,
Thank you for sharing this interesting optional solution to
lowering a Sporty. I appreciate the input, as you know all to well, how to
lower a bike is often asked at this site and information can be
challenging to come by.
Mama
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Thursday,
September 30
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I have just stumbled on your website, and am enjoying it very much. I
have a question . . . I have a Buell Blast but now am considering buying an
'05 883L Sportster. I am a very short woman, 5' tall, and 110 pounds.
I still need to lower the 883L about an inch to feel comfortable. Do you or
anyone else know of a way to do so without compromising the bike's ride?
Thank you, Wudblee
Dear
Wudblee,
How exciting to be considering your next bike! For the newest
bikes, it's unlikely to find solutions at the aftermarket houses, so I
would advise that you discuss this with your Harley salesperson. Solutions
range from a simple lowering kit which you could negotiate as part of the
bike sale before signing on the dotted line . . . to perhaps a different
seat which could lower you (i.e. look for a narrower seat that doesn't
push your legs out so far and for that, check to see if the Corbin
Gunfighter series has one for your bike . . . I saw it at the Street
Vibrations show last weekend and it's a real solution). In some cases,
even a simple change of approved tires can accomplish the task.
No
matter which solution you end up discussing, if your salesperson cannot
answer the question on how the ride will change with each modification,
talk with the service manager -- they can be a real fountain of knowledge.
Mama
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Thursday,
October 7
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I currently own a 2002 Kawasaki Ninja 250. I had seen on your website the
article which listed best motorcycles for short women. I am only 5"
and I can't seem to reach the ground properly, or enough to feel
comfortable with it. I have already had the seat shaved down a good inch
and a half, but that's still not enough. The lady that owned a Ninja
suggested getting a lowering kit for the bike however, I have not been
able to find out specially for a 250 Ninja. I was just wondering do you
know where I can locate one? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Dawn Renee Hale
Dear
Dawn,
You're in luck! Two riders with Ninjas shared that they found the
lowering solution (on a 250 and 500) at Adjustment Tech. Hop over to my Lowering
Kits page, scroll down to the Kawasaki section and you'll see the
link! Mama
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Thursday,
October 7
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I saw the whole
list of bikes and how they were lowered. No one listed the Honda 1100
Shadow Aero. Do you know if anyone has made changes? If so, what? Thanks,
Karen
Dear
Karen,
Well, my search left me scratching my head. Progressive Suspension
offers shorter shocks and a front fork lowering kit, but it's for '85
and '86 models, and something tells me that your bike is newer. I did
see in my Dennis Kirk catalog a fork lowering kit for the 98-02 models of
Shadow Aero's (which is fine) but they also note that the rear should be
also lowered, but again, couldn't find complementary shocks to do the job.
Scoot
Works, which offers a number of solutions for Hondas didn't have this
model listed, but it might be worth contacting them to see if they know of
what might be done.
A
previous posting from March 2003 suggests that Cobra might have come up
with a product, but their site isn't showing products yet online, so
you'll need to call your local dealer's parts department and have them
look through their catalog copy. Mama
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Saturday,
October 30
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I must respond to a couple of items posted on your wonderful site.
You have suggested once or twice that a simple way of
lowering the bike is to put smaller wheels on. Yes, this will lower the
bike, but you should note that this will also make the speedo inaccurate, eg.,
if you fit wheels that are 5% smaller than original, then they will rotate
that much faster at a given speed and the speedo will also read 5% higher
than you are actually traveling at.
Also some time ago someone
mentioned changing the sprockets on a Yamaha VStar to make it faster.
Great idea, except that the VStars use a driveshaft and not a chain, ie., no
sprockets to change.
Good luck on a great site. I've been reading it for ages
and have got some very handy tips. Ol' Smurkey in
Melbourne, Australia
Dear
Ol' Smurkey,
Glad you are enjoying your visits to the VTwin Mama site and thanks
for sharing an important consequence of changing to a smaller tire size . .
. I'm sincerely hoping that shops note this to their customer, but have
modified my own notes on my Motorcycles
for Short Riders page to add this new information! Mama
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Monday,
November 29
Dear
VTwin Mama,
I've been reading about lowering bikes on your site. And I see that your
site gets a lot of women that are short with big bikes. Well I'm a short man
with a big bike, a 2005 Yamaha Venture and I have to tiptoe at stop signs.
My wife likes to ride with me, but she is worried about me not being able to
flat foot the bike. I've head that lowering a bike could cause problems with
loads and turns. The bike could weight up to 1250 lbs with a full load,
wife, me and some things in the trunks. I don't want to do anything to
change the Max. load of the bike but do need about 2" in order to be
able to flat foot this big bike. Can you help?
Frankie and Fay
Dear
Frankie and Fay,
This is an interesting question . . . does lowering a bike affect
the maximum load capacity abilities? Certainly anytime you alter a bike from
it's stock configuration, you'll have a change in handling characteristics.
You'll want to choose options that will lower the bike in an approved manner
and then relearn the handling style, first solo and then with your wife on
the bike.
Still,
a lowered bike has less ground clearance and it is possible to "over
lower" a bike (so that typical bumps in the road now cause discomfort).
I think it all boils down as to how you lower the bike.
In
trying to find an answer, I came across this
page on the Scoot Works site, a site which offers lots of lowering kits.
Scroll about half way down and you'll see a Q/A on how the rake of the bike,
and thus the handling characteristics, are changed when you only lower the
rear and when you lower both the front and rear. Useful information when
making decisions.
This
page
written by Progressive Suspension, the big shock marketer, talks about
the affects of changing out the shocks (one way to lower a bike). Lots of
tips here. Question to you: have you already checked that the current shocks
are configured to the lowest setting possible on the stock shocks?
Neither
of these answers your ultimate question on max load capacity, but does offer
some more thoughts on lowering a bike. I would call your local dealer's
service department and pose the question to them and seek their time tested
advice for your specific bike and needs.
Mama
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